delkaetre_ni ([info]delkaetre_ni) wrote,
@ 2008-06-11 18:23:00
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Current mood: nauseated

This is not MY law.
Today, just a few minutes ago, ministers voted in favour of extending period that terror suspects could be held without charge from the current limit of 24 days all the way up to 42 days.
They won by nine votes. NINE.
This is making me react by physically hunching my shoulders and tensing.
This is because I do not feel safe.
This is not my government. I did not vote for it, and I have not given it my consent to rule over me. But because I live here, I have no choice. I cannot just change the rules and live by my own common sense instead of their laws. Now, if someone thinks I might be terrorist, I can just... vanish, for six weeks or until they find something to charge me with. And given I'm very leftist with a powerful interest in individual freedoms and an increasingly strong mistrust of government and those who serve it, they could probably manage.


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[info]steerpikelet
2008-06-11 05:33 pm UTC (link)
fuck.

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[info]delkaetre_ni
2008-06-11 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Something like that, yes.

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[info]captainlucy
2008-06-11 06:14 pm UTC (link)
-Mainpost =subversive: edit-
Now reads: Party wins ++good victory against Eurasian sympathisers. There is much rejoicing in the streets. The people of Oceania can rest easy in the love of Big Brother.
-Message ends-

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[info]delkaetre_ni
2008-06-11 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Apparently it was the DUP that swung the vote. I do wish that NI and England could just have minimal involvement with each other, the way England and Scotland do.

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[info]strawberryfrog
2008-06-11 07:02 pm UTC (link)
Fuck.

As a South African I am virulently opposed to detention without trial and other instruments of a police state in all its forms.

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[info]delkaetre_ni
2008-06-11 08:35 pm UTC (link)
The various news and media had been telling us that this wouldn't work, that the HoC wouldn't let it through. This makes it sting that little bit more, I think.

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[info]egadfly
2008-06-11 07:56 pm UTC (link)
This stupid and evil piece of legislation is not my law either. I'll guess I'll see you in the concentration camp, then...

(Hope you don't mind me popping up out of the blue - saw your post via my friends of friends page, and I'm so pissed at this ridiculous vote I'm ranting at anyone who'll listen. Tomorrow I'll calm down and carry on with my life in a country that's one putrid step closer to disaster.)

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[info]delkaetre_ni
2008-06-11 08:33 pm UTC (link)
You are most welcome to comment. Indeed, the more people who know about this and are vocal about it, the better. Enough of us, and there won't be a camp big enough.

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[info]x2speed
2008-06-11 09:05 pm UTC (link)
There's always Australia.

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[info]mikuru_rejoices
2008-06-11 09:35 pm UTC (link)
the fucking DUP, not content with marginilising (sorry cant spell) the gay community (or at least being content to let one of their members spout homophobic abuse), have fucked the whole country's civil rights over.

"I do wish that NI and England could just have minimal involvement with each other, the way England and Scotland do."

- Seconded and carried!
"detention without trial and other instruments of a police state in all its forms." - I may not have experienced these things or know too much about them, but they bad, bad in scarey ways, methinks. The police state has been coming, maybe it here in a lot more ways than we think.

Mikal

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[info]nemfx
2008-06-12 05:11 am UTC (link)
Canada's nice this time of year. Unless your talking about Canada. Then I guess we both need to find some other country to live in.

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[info]delkaetre_ni
2008-06-12 11:09 am UTC (link)
It's the UK, actually.

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The Police State starts here...
[info]chaoscowboy
2008-06-12 11:31 am UTC (link)
The scary thing is that this sort of law could be so easily abused, they could 'find' any reason to suspect you of having links to terrorism, such as not supproting the views of the Government and you could be 'disappeared' for a long time, and who's to say when the 42 days began? It could be 42 days when you are at one facility, then oh dear we messed it up and you start the 42 days again when they move you somewhere else.

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[info]kaljerico
2008-06-12 12:45 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I was distressed to hear about this. We do still have the HoL (I can't actualy believe I'm glad about the Lords) and there's already at least one legal challenge.
But, there is also good news. It now looks like the Irish referendum on the E.U. might just return a "No" vote, which would wreck the whole Lisbon Treaty.

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[info]chaoscowboy
2008-06-12 01:46 pm UTC (link)
And another scary thing is that so many of the yes votes were purchased by bribes and favours.... Democracy vanishes down the u-bend.

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